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3.5 Ecoboost Rattle On Cold Start


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We have a 2012 Ford Expedition with the 3.5L Engine. Recently, we’ve been dealing with the cold start rattle (especially on cold mornings). 

Normally the wife and I just look at each other and shrug. “That doesn’t sound good” is normally what we say. But the rattle goes away in seconds, and the SUV performs amazingly. 

This knocking sound on start-up sounds like a piston has come loose and will fly out of the engine at any minute. For the more educated, it sounds like an aggressive overhead cam rattle. Some folks have described it as a chain rattle. Others have postured that it is an exhaust leak. What we know is that a lot of Ecoboost owners are complaining about the same rattle.

This noise is specifically in the top front cover area.

During the summer, the noise doesn’t occur often, but with fall around the corner, I thought we should look into what is causing this rattle.  

Turns out the Ford cold start rattle is a cam phaser rattle. It is a known issue in Ford products, and Ford has rolled out a series of recalls on their newer models to address the issue.  Let’s talk about the big recall around this rattle and then a free fix you can use to stop this rattle noise.

Recall 21B10 To Improve Oil Pressure

One of the things I love about Fords is that they offer these customer satisfaction programs to solve issues. The free repair of the 21B10 expires on January 1st, 2023. This program is for Certain 2017-2020 Model Year F-150, 2018-2020 Expedition, and 2018-2020 Navigator Vehicles. 

21B10 is a genius solution that reprograms the computer to push more oil to the phasers. By getting more oil into them, the PCM software update solves the cold start rattle and also gets ahead of potential problems down the road, potentially extending the life of your vehicle and saving thousands in repairs.  Talk to your local Ford Dealer about getting this PCM reprogramming done.

Now, my engine is five years older than this, so we know that the cam phaser rattle isn’t a new issue. But it gives us some clues as to a solution, even on these older vehicles. 

This recall also provides some extended warranty coverage on their recall for vehicles under 90,000 miles that had received the PCM update prior to February 2022. 

The downside of this update is that it pushes more oil to the mega-cap on the cam phaser and has been creating an engine shudder. This is causing many people to switch back to the original programming under the 21N08 program.

How To Stop The Cold Start Rattle By Depressing The Gas Pedal

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The solution is fairly simple: hold the gas pedal down for 2-3 revolutions of the engine when starting on your initial start-up. Then lift your foot off the gas and start the car normally. 

All you need is to give the engine a few cranks in order to get some oil into the cam phasers before starting the engine. 

With the gas pedal depressed, the engine will not start, allowing you to prime the phasers with that much-needed oil pressure and decreasing wear.

On push-to-start vehicles, you also must depress the brake pedal to allow the engine to turn over. So you will be holding the brake and the gas pedal at the same time.

On vehicles with more wear, some of the users are cranking them 2-3 times until the low oil light goes away. I think that might be a bit excessive. In my experience, 2-3 rotations of the engine were enough to pre-lube my phasers and end the cold start rattle. 

The key thing is to not burn out your starter. Starters are only designed to work in 3 to 5-second intervals. Crank for 3 seconds with the gas pedal depressed. Wait 3 seconds. And then start the car normally. This should resolve the cold start rattle. 

See Related: Excessive Engine Vibrations

Why The Cam Phasers Rattle 

image of Ford Ecoboost engine

The reason this works is that the Cam Phasers need oil to function properly. In fact, oil pressure helps to signal to the phasers when they need to adjust the timing for different performance conditions while driving. 

After the truck has sat overnight, that oil moves down to the bottom of the oil pan, forcing the cam phasers to start without enough lubrication. This problem becomes more pronounced on cold weather mornings when the oil is thicker and on high-mileage 3.5L EcoBoost engines. 

The real issue is that the timing chain tensioners wear so quickly. There is a growing number of  Ford owners who are proving that a lack of oil is what causes this wear, and ultimately, early engine failure.

Aftermarket Pre-Oilers

Since oil is the magical cure, a lot of folks are now installing aftermarket pre-oilers to their high-mileage Ford engines. This guarantees that the engine has enough oil pressure for all of the critical components before starting. 

Some handy mechanics are finding ways to hardwire pre-oiler tanks into their engine compartments. These kits run about $400 and take plenty of tinkering. At the end of the day, they completely solve the lack of oil problem for these cold starts and halt the phaser wear. 

Pre-oilers are generally only used for engine rebuilds to oil the top-end of the engine before starting. The MasterLube is the one that most folks seem to have gone with. 

WasteGate Rattle

Source: F150Forum.com

Most of this article has been focused on the cold start rattle noise. This issue has plagued Ford’s since 2012, so it is a common issue.

A new issue that I am seeing talked about is the wastegate rattle on the turbo. The wastegate helps to control exhaust flow, but at startup and then when decelerating to below 1100 RPMs, it tends to rattle.

User sixpack577 on the FordF150 forum has one of the best ideas I’ve seen. He hooks a spring to the wastegate to stop it from rattling. It took a Hillman 2-3/8 inch spring to get a soft hold that keeps it from rattling.

Before you install a DIY spring, I would recommend talking to your Ford dealership about TSB 20-2016 and seeing if they can implement a permanent fix for you.

How Long With The Ford Expedition Engine Last?

Image of ford expedition on showroom floor

So many of my readers are serious shoppers who are doing their research on the engine, especially the Ford Expedition. 

I’m the same way. I want to know all of the problems. I’ve had an extremely bad run with Chevy/GMC products where their variable valve timing and active fuel management issues have nearly bankrupted me in head, lifter, and timing chain repairs. 

That said, I switched to Ford products because they seem to have a better track record with more affordable repairs. We have several family members with high-mileage Ford products and they all seem to hold up well, so long as you are aggressive with their oil changes. 

Ford Expeditions commonly reach 215,000 miles. Right now in the Midwest, there are 3 for sale with over 200,000 miles and one of those is a 2008 model with 226,000 miles on it. Ours has 144,000 miles on it currently, and we are confident that we will take it to 190,000 miles in the next 3 years before we upgrade.

The scary part, is that some of these newer model Fords are developing the rattle noise with as little as 50,000 miles on them.  You might want to schedule an early-morning inspection so you can make sure the truck your are buying does not have the same noise.

Zachary Drumm

Hey! My name is Zachary Drumm! This site allows me to test new tools, piddle around in the garage, and share the insights I get from flipping cars and houses. When it comes to tools, home improvement, and being a “shade tree mechanic,” you’ve come to the right spot. If I’m not in the garage creating content, you’ll find me outside, running, canoeing, and traveling. My goal is to empower more people to be self-sufficient.

7 thoughts on “3.5 Ecoboost Rattle On Cold Start”

  1. I appreciate the in-depth analysis of the Ford cold start rattle phenomenon. After applying the recommended techniques, I found a significant reduction in engine noise during cold starts. It’s remarkable how simple adjustments can yield such beneficial results for our vehicles. Kudos to those who share their insights in this community!

  2. IntellectusMaximus

    In my experience, the cold start rattle is indeed a nuanced issue. I once faced a similar scenario with my Ford vehicle. Implementing the gas pedal trick not only alleviated the noise but also provided me with peace of mind knowing that I was extending the life of my engine. Such practical solutions are invaluable for dedicated Ford enthusiasts.

  3. CuriousNavigator42

    As an avid follower of automotive innovations, I find the insights shared here invaluable. The explanation surrounding cam phasers and their oil dependency elucidates a significant aspect of engine functionality that many overlook. It’s remarkable how such knowledge can empower users to perform preventive measures effectively. The community-driven solutions, like those from user sixpack577, exemplify how collective intelligence can tackle common automotive woes efficiently.

  4. It is quite refreshing to see such an analytical approach to the common rattle issue in Ford’s Ecoboost engines. The notion of utilizing a simple gas pedal technique to alleviate the cold start rattle is particularly intriguing. I had not considered this method until now. It’s also commendable that Ford is taking responsibility through their customer satisfaction programs, demonstrating a commitment to their clientele. It’s crucial for manufacturers to address such issues proactively.

  5. CerebralChallenger

    In response to the article’s conclusion about DIY solutions for the cold start rattle and wastegate issues, I must emphasize a critical perspective that appears overlooked. Firstly, while user-generated fixes such as attaching springs to wastegates may provide temporary relief, they inherently suggest a failure in engineering oversight from Ford itself. This raises broader questions about corporate responsibility in addressing known defects rather than shifting repair burdens onto consumers who are often ill-equipped to make such modifications without risking warranty voidance or safety concerns. Furthermore, promoting aftermarket products as comprehensive solutions overlooks potential compatibility issues and long-term efficacy which remain untested in real-world scenarios. A holistic approach focusing on factory recalls and substantial manufacturer engagement would be more beneficial than piecemeal adjustments.

    1. I concur with your stance regarding corporate accountability; however, it is equally vital we consider consumer agency in these matters. Owners should not be entirely reliant on manufacturers for optimal vehicle performance post-purchase. The automotive market is rife with opportunities for proactive engagement by consumers; understanding one’s vehicle’s intricacies can yield invaluable insights and empower owners to seek tailored solutions that align with their needs.

  6. IntellectusMaximus

    While I acknowledge the mechanical insights presented regarding the Ford Expedition’s cold start rattle, I find it imperative to scrutinize the underlying causes more critically. The assertion that this noise merely signifies a lubrication deficiency oversimplifies a multifaceted issue. The cam phasers, integral to engine timing, indeed require adequate oil pressure, yet attributing all responsibility for the rattling solely to oil circulation neglects other potentially significant contributors such as material wear or design flaws inherent in the engine architecture. Moreover, suggesting that simply adjusting driving habits or utilizing aftermarket pre-oilers can comprehensively resolve these issues may lead owners to underestimate the urgency of addressing fundamental design deficiencies. These could ultimately compromise long-term vehicle reliability and safety.

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